Judy Dragon

作者簡介

這是一位女性的生命故事,從童年的極端創傷(包括性虐待、身體折磨和人口販賣)中走出,轉化為一段深度療癒與靈性探索的旅程。她透過超過45年的深奧與替代療癒研究,幫助自己及他人療癒童年創傷與其他身心問題。

她曾擔任牙科衛生師26年,同時以自然療法撫養四個孩子,並探索創新的育兒方式。在1987年「和諧收斂」後,她開始面對壓抑的創傷,並透過臨床催眠療法與ThetaHealing®技術深度療癒與協助他人。她參與出版與演講,分享關於解離性身份障礙的整合經驗,並撰寫了書籍《超越》,為全球提供非二元創傷療癒的工具。

此外,她是非營利組織「超越創傷計劃」的創始成員,致力於推廣結合靈性、心理學與科學的創傷療癒方法。她相信,在當下的創傷與轉變時代,透過日常靈性連結與自我照護,每個人都能實現內心對齊與轉化。最後,Judy 提及了塔拉·羅達斯(Tara Rodas)在美國國會揭露政府資助的兒童販賣問題的行動,進一步強調她故事中的光明與真相。

作者訪談&逐字稿

00:00:00

Staying Alive UK. Share your story. Hello, Judy. How are you today? I’m great. Thanks for inviting me on. I’m really excited to have you on the podcast, actually. It’s been a long time in the coming, right? Because you were moving house and you had to delay things. So we’ve had a big break and in terms of getting you here. And so I hope your move went smoothly and you’re settled in by the looks of it. I am settled in now. Great. Yeah, fantastic. Well, Judy, I am very naughty and lazy at the same time. I ask one question to begin with. I have no other rehearsed questions. And then one question is, well, Julie, thanks for coming on the podcast. Would you like to share your story and how you got where you are today?

00:01:06

I would. And I’m actually excited and been waiting a long time to be more public about my story. So I really appreciate that you you have this format that I can talk more about it. Great. Yeah. My story is very unique because of what I survived and have changed so much about myself and who I am because of it. It’s a story that goes to the depths of darkness on a personal and on a larger planetary and cosmic level. Yeah, it’s about multigenerational multigenerational abuse. And it’s true. It’s traumatic effects and that it’s still happening to this day, even worldwide. Some who have survived this kind of what I consider extreme trauma that I’ll be mentioning have gone public with full details. And I think it’s a really brave move.

00:02:14

But I’ve chosen to do my journey really differently. Though I’ve discussed aspects publicly for the last 20 some years, but I’ve instead focused on my healing and helping others to heal from trauma due to childhood abuse. Yeah. So, just to say that I’m going to truncate a lot of the story for several reasons. I know the intensity of. How hearing too much at one time affects what I call the autonomic nervous system that fights, flights, and freezes. And I want people to stay present with me. I’ve lived through so much, or we all have lived through so much shock and trauma in the past three years. So, I want to just kind of make it more gentle for everyone. Sure. Thank you. Yeah. So.

00:03:17

The other reason is that I’ve written a, or I will be writing a fictionalized autobiography of my life. And so there are aspects of this that I don’t want public now and that I’ll put it in symbolic or metaphorical ways when I write the book. Understood. Yeah. So. So. So what I’m about to say is going to probably be a little bit mind-blowing for some and difficult for others. Well, some are going to be able to relate to it historically, or what’s going on presently as well. Yeah. So. I was born during the Cold War in the 50s, and people reflect on that time. Kind of like the Leave It to Beaver area or air. Yeah.

00:04:17

And, you know, like the Cleaver family, and everything was okay, but it wasn’t for millions of other children; the country was afraid of communists, and many felt that there had to be strategies to fight this. And so, this is what the history texts say, but that’s on a surface level. Yeah. So, meanwhile, Nazis were already being brought in to the United States through Project Paperclip. And that was during and after World War Two. And so consider Cape Canaveral and the Nazi Werner Von Braun, who was brought here to work in rocketry and space during that time and through the 50s and 60s. So there were a lot more than him. So, Eisenhower talked about the military.

00:05:17

He talked about the military industrial complex, and they use their techniques from World War Two and the Korean War on selected children in this country as controlled and programmed experiments and slaves. Wow. Yeah. There’s a lot of books actually out written about this. So. Your audience will probably be curious about. I grew up on the east coast of the United States, in what was considered basically a Jewish middle class neighborhood. And that was the cover religion. My DNA is European Jewish, but that’s not my identity in who I consider I am. I consider myself a spiritual being having a human experience. Yes. And. And so. So the surface or the top story of my biological family, who just, by the way, I don’t have contact with was about my mother and her severe mental health issues and how much she would be emotionally abusive towards me.

00:06:38

So there was kind of the scapegoats in the family. Sure. My mother. I’m sorry, what? Sure. I said, sure. Oh, OK. So, my mother was labeled as having manic depression, which is now called bipolar, and was also labeled as manic suicidal. She was hospitalized often, and my father hired women to take care of me and the siblings. And as a young child under three, I would go around my grandmother’s neighborhood because I lived with her. That life-scar, she knew, wasn’t that she would? Well, order to make money or not, she even asked women to be my mother. And it was a big sign of having already what’s considered attachment disorder. And God. So, my mother. She also attempted suicide many times even while she was pregnant with me. So, my mother.

00:07:42

And I had actually discovered this ahead of time in the Thomas Tyranny case, repressed memory. My family. How I’m healed back to life and my dad came to me. By a state investigator, um, finding part of my mother’s records in a very famous hospital, so I love it when this validation you know comes and it has come for years to me, I mean the most bizarre things show up, um, and my mother wasn’t bipolar, uh, she had dissociative identity disorder, also known as multiple personalities, and kind of like in the book Sybil, and in fact her abuse towards me was just like what Sybil’s mother did to her, and this became who’s Sybil, Judy, who’s Sybil. So Sybil was a woman; they did a movie with Sally Field back in the 70s and there was a movie about it, right?

00:08:43

And she had many personalities, and her mother would torture her in different ways when her father was at work, right? So I read this book back in the early 70s when it came out, and I just it resonated with me but I didn’t have my memories then, right? So yeah, um, thank you, yeah, sure so um, my memory started coming out which was after the Harmonic Convergence in September of ’87. You know, so much started flooding in information to me, and I actually put out to God, I said, ‘Just just give it all to me You know, whatever happened, I’m so grateful that it didn’t come out that way. So, my father, and um, well just to say also that I’m so grateful that I’m able to tell you that I’m able to tell you that the sexual abuse started um as an infant and that was by different relatives besides my mother.

00:09:53

And I was being groomed for trafficking and more. So some of my relatives uh made big bucks off of me in sexual training and services, and that included my maternal grandfather, my father, and my paternal grandmother. My grandmother were not involved in the abuse. In fact, my grandmother attempted to stop her husband, my paternal grandfather, from Sexually abusing me, but he retaliated and became violent with her right so you know this was, you know, the patterns and dysfunctional homes and abusive homes. So your grandmother and grandfather are the parents of your mother father father? Father wow okay yeah so like I said my father wasn’t involved, my grandmother wasn’t involved, no. I understand but my other side was yeah I didn’t know, I was trying to see if there was a connection between your mother and her parents, uh, but it wasn’t, it was the other side of the family, your father’s side of the family, and your mother well actually both sides of the family was it?

00:11:15

Oh yes, absolutely. So when my grandfather died, which is when I was three years old, like right around that time that abuse stopped with him. But my other grandfather was already trafficking me. Yeah, how did they communicate with each other? Do you know? Oh, yeah, yeah, and that’s well where I’ll get to in the story, okay. Sorry, I’m jumping ahead, not at all, not at all. I mean, you know, you had both sides of the family being involved, so the story gets larger and larger, yeah. So at the time, um, kind of like skipping a little piece in the late 80s, I did a disclosure with the family. I flew out from California to California and I was in California and I was in California, and I was in California, and

00:12:14

I went to my birthplace and I gathered a few members of the family, one of them being the perpetrator, one of the perpetrators, and I did a truth sharing of what I knew at that time which wasn’t very much but it was enough to awaken some people in my family and my father was there and an uncle was there and a sister was there and so I had like 40 people praying for me at the time, I mean disclosure, at that time this was early on in the whole movement so it was a very very big deal and so um during that disclosure my father put his head down which was his signal um because he had what I considered An ostrich syndrome, and that was his coping mechanism for, you know, most of my childhood.

00:13:17

He couldn’t deal with it and I understand; I have forgiveness and compassion for that, you know. Through my health, but so um, my uh another relative after the confrontation or the disclosure, I’d rather call it um came forward and she had been abused by the paternal grandfather also right and he had kept it basically a family secret for 50 years while she was in and out of psychiatric, you know, doctors and stuff like that. And so that was a confirmation at that time, yes; I’m remembering you know what happened because nobody told me anything. You know, all of it came up through the repressed memories, so um, and actually my father knew that I had been abused by his father because he told me afterwards that he was abused by his father and that I was abused by

00:14:14

him; he saw it and tried to stop it, taking me away from his father in the act of it, but then turned me right back to his mother, living with his father because my mother was in mental hospitals, so you know there wasn’t a choice for him; he was working, so I was um, you know, most people think of sex trafficking of children, taking them to places to be abused for money, and it’s way more than that; so um, I was abused not only by family. Members but well-known members of the community with that Jewish faith, and doctors, Broadway, and Hollywood stars, and politicians. I was taken to horrific cult ritual activities, and I was used in pornography; um, there are elements involved in all of this that are unfathomable in levels of abuse and torture and trauma involved for most people to comprehend.

00:15:28

Um, I was also used in organized international traffic rings, and even more. I’ve had over a hundred near-death experiences which I stopped counting when I reached that number; and so that says, you know, a great deal about out-of-body experiences and spiritual. Experiences that I had, yeah, many times when I would cross over Yahshua would be there and he would just hold me and I would just and then he would lovingly tell me remind me of what my mission was and that I would have to go back because I didn’t, I didn’t want to, you know. But I had to remember what I was here to do. Um, I’ve always been intuitive and I was used for my abilities in that um, but I didn’t remember any of that because I also lived in dissociative states like my mother yes, and um, I integrated from dissociative identity disorder actually 28 years ago today the day we’re recording, so it’s an anniversary.

00:16:54

So yeah. I know it’s amazing, the timing and um that integration was a 9-month process, what I consider three months of accommodation for Christy, it’s like a a god birthing process for me and I went from a we state to a me state. And um, what do you mean with that? Judy could you explain that well? I lived in a multiple state so there were 28 parts of me that I consciously worked with right and those those children, um I called them my associates. So when people would call on the phone, you know we had answering machines in those days and it would say ‘I would say hi, my name is Judy, leave a message for me and the associates’ and so my friends knew what that meant.

00:17:50

Right, yeah, I mean, you have to have humor, you know. Yeah, you have to have humor, you know. Yes, yes, so um did that explain it enough? It does. So are you talking about multiple personalities then? Yes, yes, that’s what dissociative identity disorder is and you say 28? Oh yeah, whoa! I mean, I don’t even know the topic that well at all, obviously. I understand the phrase ‘multiple personalities’ but I would have always thought there might be, you know, one, two or three maximum, right? But to have that many, yeah, when you said that it reminded me of when that movie came out, you know, The Three Faces of Eve with Joanne Woodward, and you know actually Eve had way more than three personalities, but Hollywood didn’t go there.

00:18:53

And actually, 28 is not that big; I’ve worked with people who had thousands of parts and they’re called polyfragmented, okay? So people don’t know that, but yeah, yeah, no, that wasn’t that big, it was a lot to manage though, to say the least, for me, okay? Yeah, I can imagine. And, and how does that show up or how did that show up in your life with that complexity? Yeah, it’s a good question. Yeah, I’m a Capricorn, so a Capricorn son, so I am an organizer, and I also had four outer children, so I would hear voices in my head, but I thought everybody had voices in their. Head right, well they probably do but not like I did. You know I’ve had screaming and crying and all kinds of you know don’t do this and I, I didn’t know what it was.

00:20:06

I just you know you live with it and then when I started realizing as the healing went on, if I didn’t listen to them because I started to communicate with them in therapy and stuff, if I didn’t listen, I sometimes had what was called body takeovers. And I would go in the background so there would be a tear right above my eyebrow, be like a multi-dimensional shift up front and another. And I Judy the host would go in the background and the part would come out and start talking, so I would be talking like I was a three-year-old or a six-year-old, or something like that, perhaps in some movies, but that’s really what happens. So, the only time I’ve experienced that was in Florida, actually, because we used to live in Suriname, South America, for a while, and I traveled my uncle and aunt and their daughters were living in Florida, Boca Raton, and we, my sister and I, for our 15th birthday, traveled on our own from Suriname, South America, to Florida.

00:21:27

And my uncle used to do hypnosis, and he hypnotized me, so I’m 15 years old, and he always remembered when I was a three-year-old, I was going around the garden in Amsterdam smelling the flowers and on one of the flowers there was a bee and I got a fright, I ran into the house crying like this, and he remembered this and so he hypnotized me to go back to that point as a three-year-old and my sister who witnessed it, my uncle obviously. And I could hear myself a little bit talking but I didn’t know my voice completely changed to a three-year-old, so that’s the only time I experienced that, so I know what you mean now okay, so that was an inner child regression, that’s what I call it.

00:22:25

I also was certified as a hypnotherapist, so right right yeah yeah, so your inner child showed up to tell you what happened. Yeah, yeah, that’s right, so, so you would have a three-year-old, a six-year-old, a 12-year-old, an 18-year-old, you would have multiples exactly and um actually for me um my parts look different than me like I would look in the mirror and I wouldn’t see me I would see a child with red hair and blue eyes and it’s like I don’t have blue eyes or red hair um and I would also they had names so that is dissociative identity disorder but there’s also DDNOS and they call it something different now but it’s not as separated in the identity like it might be a six-year-old or a five-year-old like you were talking about yeah I had different names.

00:23:33

I knew their voices, I knew who would come out and sometimes I didn’t have any control over it. So, um, my newer book that it’s in revision now, I share some stories in there plus I had a book out years ago about the integration of the id with stories of seven other women, so you know it goes into more detail about the processes of what happened for each person. Yeah, so do you think, uh, and I know I’ve interrupted your flow a little bit, but I’ve got to ask this question in case I forget it, and that is: Do you think that having, I’m not saying that you created it, but these characters, um, let’s call it the condition that happened was a way of Coping with the trauma that you had to deal with is that part of why that comes up or exists absolutely, it’s actually a brilliant coping mechanism because the child only has the choices of splitting psychosis or death so I think that’s pretty clever,

00:24:54

you know, yeah absolutely, because you, you, you’re effectively dissociating yourself from that body physically and psychologically who’s going through that trauma, you’re saying that’s not me, I’m I’m not that person that’s going through that trauma, that’s somebody else, that’s right, and they saved my life, those parts, those aspects saved my life until their jobs weren’t. needed anymore right and it was a process of self-love and self-acceptance, and when that happened, a god process occurred where they came in to my body, and that let me just say that this is the anniversary date like I said, and it was so traumatic for me, it took me months, I cried and cried and cried, I didn’t know how to, I didn’t know how to operate in the world as one person, so it was like you know, like trying to find my way around um in a whole nother way,

00:26:03

so do you think it was grief as well for the loss of those personalities or those individuals, yeah I loved him, yeah absolutely, I was their mom, you know, I can imagine, yeah um, I think I, I know That it was really hard on my other children, now really hard, and so um, you know there were things that would happen that made it very when I switched and it was like, ‘Where’s mom but they didn’t know what happened; they just knew mom wasn’t there, yeah, yeah. So, and you know I was so functional-I worked two jobs and raised four children and went through a horrible divorce, so to me, I had so much strength when I look back at what I went through; it’s just amazing to me still, yeah, yeah.

00:27:07

Okay, so when when that did you call it convergence? No, harmonic convergence? Yeah, harmonic convergence happened for you. Um, how old were you if you don’t mind? me asking well the harmonic convergence was in 1987 that was a huge planetary shift right remember that okay so that’s when everything came up for me okay well I don’t remember it because I wasn’t at that time in 87 I was not I might my awakening didn’t happen until 2000 2004 so it was a long way after that so I wouldn’t have been conscious that anything was changing um I know that I changed when I was like 44 then then that’s a good number I know I know yeah that’s when everything changed for me yeah okay so so 1987 is when the harmonic convergence happened for you and then how long did it take for you to fully integrate into who You are today, well that’s an interesting question.

00:28:29

The top 28 integrated in ’95, right? Okay, then. I like; I said define my way and I continued to have memories, but I had to feel the memories so it was a very different experience for me and these are repressed memories so still to this day I have repressed memories; still to this day, my body somaticizes and so it’s emotionally and physically difficult sometimes you know. Yes, I have to take a lot of self-care for myself um and I do; I um yeah so I want to I want to go back to another piece of the story yeah yeah so um when I was 19 my mother um committed suicide, so she finally after all the Years of attempting and it took me years of healing to be able to grieve and finally release the hatred that I felt towards her.

00:29:38

And this was um, so in the late 90s, I went through this four-hour healing process. Actually, to this day, I’m not sure what the person did, but all I know is, in that evening, I was writing, and I literally cried for hours in an awakening that occurred within me, and I experienced forgiveness to the depth of me. And all that heavy hatred that I felt towards her; it completely transformed into this deep love understanding of what happened for my mother. Like, I got it. Like, I got that what happened to me had happened. To her right, and there was this deep compassion that occurred and um, she started to come to me in spirit form and she would tell me more through my memories of what occurred to both of us, right.

00:30:44

And so it was such a deep, it’s even hard to talk about it now because it touches me so deeply, yes, I understand, yeah. Um, so, so the extreme abuse actually went on until even after I was married, which was when I was 20 years old and um, I had moved to California in a 1953 hippie school bus with two dogs, two cats, and uh, the furniture, and then I home birthed four children um, because I didn’t want to be near doctors, but I didn’t know why, yeah. Yeah, and, so I was very alternative in my approach to raising them. I didn’t use you know allopathic medicine and no TV. You and um, I kind of gathered herbs and um, garden and I baked bread and I canned foods and I you know cooked and studied and I practiced Jin Shin Jitsu which is like acupuncture without the needles, using your fingers.

00:32:00

And I was a dental hygienist and you know all of this. And you know, I realized, you know, I always went beyond my limits because I was trained that way, yes. So um, so my healing journey has been now about half my life. Um, I spent years in therapy and also working with alternative healing practitioners. So, if we’re coming near the end just let me know no, no, you’re good, you’re good; keep going, yeah, whatever that’s fine. Okay, um, and so, um, as a clinical therapist, I’ve been doing a lot of therapy and I’ve been doing a lot of, you know, I studied that too. Um, I would continue to do my inner journey work and um, you know, work with clients; then um, I decided to become more of like a trauma specialist.

00:33:00

I’m really good at connecting the dots, you know what’s going on in the world now? I actually, I have fun connecting it’s like second nature to me to put patterns together and it turns out, I’m usually right because you know, I kind of track things. That excuse me, that was an issue for me when I had uh the ID I couldn’t track well, so it was really important that I learned how to do that yeah. When you say ‘so’, ‘so’ explain a little bit more about when you say ‘you didn’t track well’ or ‘you enjoy tracking um because that’s a phrase I have a lot of times. I’ve learned how to do that because I’ve learned how to do that because I’ve come across and our listeners probably don’t know it either okay.

00:33:47

Well, it means that I… well there’s different modes of tracking so right now as we’re talking I’m we’re doing some active listening with each other you know feeding back and forth okay that’s True, that’s a form of tracking. Another track is um what comes up in different sources I see connecting patterns and I put them together and then that’s how I put my memories together so I could piece things together and then they came into a bigger picture of what was actually occurring. I couldn’t track that because I would be talking to you years ago and all of a sudden I would go, ‘What did I say and it would terrify me that I couldn’t understand where the conversation was right, right, right.

00:34:50

Okay, so it was part of the trauma responses of the lack of tracking and the lack of ability to communicate, um yeah. So when I got that back It was so exciting to me, okay. Thank you for that, yeah. That makes sense, yeah, of course. Because I-I see it almost like the picture that’s coming in my head; it’s understandable if there is so much trauma in your mind and body then what you’re saying you’re literally just saying it for what you you know because it’s almost that you do you-you’ve already programmed yourself that you don’t want to remember that moment. It’s almost kind of rubbing it out straight away, because of all the events that you’ve experienced where you would literally be I’m paraphrasing for my own understanding: You will be rubbing it out as if it didn’t happen it was actually um the brain in trauma responses takes it’s like a biological innate

00:36:13

ability to do that thank god our brains know how to protect us from that level of trauma so yeah the coping mechanisms that come from that like you said are going to need like if something feels too much i’m going to block it out yeah i’m going to go on another trajectory yeah and then there’s something called the process of being in a state of trauma and that makes it a little difficult uh for other people to communicate but that’s how i know when i’m talking to someone whether they also have dissociative coping mechanisms as well yes all being yes not taking away anything from the horrendous trauma that you’ve been through and And you have my deepest compassion for everything you’ve gone through.

00:37:05

And I’m so sorry you as a human on this planet has had to suffer that much. And at the same time now, you have managed to do a lot of healing and the healing continues. I totally get it. Because of your experience, you are a better empathetic healer than you would be otherwise, because you can recognize the traits in people. You can see what’s happening for them and how to help them. Is that right? Yeah. Absolutely. That empathy, that care, that compassion. It’s like, I get it. You know, I want to awaken other people to get it, to understand the pattern. So when they see people that are serial killers, killers and do horrific things, they will understand where it came from. It doesn’t come from nowhere.

00:38:06

That person had to be traumatized to act like that. And all of these patterns will be in my revised book that I’m almost finished editing. So I want to awaken people to bring their compassion. Sure, you can hate others. But guess what? When we hate others, our energy. Our energy connects to them, and I don’t want my, my power, my energy connected to someone who abused me. I want my power. And that’s why I believe in forgiveness. Yeah, I love that statement. It’s, and at the same time, I think you’re a hundred percent right there. You don’t want to give your energy to the abuser or to all these people that have done horrible things. And I have looked within myself of knowing of people who have been, maybe are still abusers.

00:39:14

And it is really, really hard to go into that space of forgiveness for those individuals, because all you want for them is to be punished and to be put in jail. And never to see the light of day. So we had a case in the UK recently where a policeman abused women for years without getting caught. Four years in the London Metropolitan Police. And he was sentenced the other day for 30 years in prison. And there were lots of comments that said, it’s not long enough. You know, he won’t come out of jail until he’s like in his eighties. People said it’s not long enough. He should die in prison. And I now have sympathy with that comment. And, you know, whether it’s men or women, it usually is men in terms of the kind of abuse.

00:40:25

Being a man myself. I, I say this often to my wife, who’s, who’s also had some experience, lived experience that sometimes I’ve, I embarrassed to be a man because of what men do towards women, children, other men. Yeah, it’s, it’s not nice at all. You know, thank you for sharing as a man, what, what your feelings are about it. You know, and I totally understand that outrage and the rage. I couldn’t have gone through what I’ve gone through and realized about the forgiveness. And unless I went through those stages, also of the rage and the outrage and the grief and the terror and all of that, you know, so I get it, but can we survive as, as a planet in hatred? Is that where we want to put our consciousness?

00:41:30

No. Okay. Yes. Those people need to be separated from society for sure. But there are other ways to handle that. You have to remember those men who did those things, where’d they get those behaviors? Yeah. That’s why my book explains this. They were little boys. And by the way, one in five women, not one in five women. Out of those who abused children, one fifth are women, just to say. And my mother was an abuser. Yeah. Was she abused? You bet she was. Yeah. Okay. So you can start to see that patterning. Do you see what I mean? Totally. Totally. The conditioned mind is responsible for a huge amount. And that conditioning happens to people and the trauma. And those, you know, personalities and the fact that she event, in the end, couldn’t live with herself, um, explains a lot.

00:42:38

Exactly. She couldn’t live with herself. And that’s why she tried when she was pregnant with me, when that memory first came up, I thought she was trying to kill me. I thought it was personal. Yeah. When I did it through creator. When I looked at. The truth of it, the highest truth of it. I realized that she did it to save both of us. She didn’t want me to go through what she had gone through. Yeah. And I cried so much in realizing the highest truth of that. So people have different levels of truth in which they understand things, you know, and, um, and I, like I said, totally understand people wanting to punish. Yeah.

00:43:25

But can we continue that without, you know, back in the seventies, they were trying to, um, do different kinds of reform of people in prison. And, and that went by the wayside. I say, start to bring that back and start to deal with those prisoners with waking up their inner child who was abused. Yes. That’s my thought. Well, yeah, a hundred percent because the energy of those thought processes, those feelings and everything will never be healed or transmuted. If there are so many human beings walking around the planet with these feelings and the energy of this, and all we will get is just repetition, repetition, repetition until we start healing each other. Yeah. And this is the time, Michael. So thank you for saying that, because this is it.

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We are here now in the planetary shifting. Yeah. So those criminals will be brought to justice, and some of them have been brought to say okay. And we’re going to hear things on the world stage that are going to shock us. I already know this. But. Okay. So, but it’s kind of like the rest of humanity needs to wake up to know what’s really been going on because we’ve been in a spiritual war and all of this is going to be brought forward and it already is now, you know, things that happen on those laptops. That’s what happened to me, but I wasn’t on those laptops. Okay. No. Just to say. So. I think we’re in a time where it’s already in public view. If the public is awake to it.

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So I’m just kind of excited. I really am. I’m very excited as an intuitive and having visions for years of what we’re actually moving into. And I want people to get excited. I really do. I want people to know that even though it’s going to look chaotic, because when a woman gives birth, you know, it’s not just. Know it’s really crazy during the pushing and the shoving, you know, having done four children and so then you get the Cracker Jack surprise, you know. So I feel that we are going through some severe birthing pains right now until we shift into that Aquarian age and I think March is going to be very eye-opening just to say.

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Well, thank you for that and I will definitely be looking out for that and keeping in touch with everything that’s going on and it’s interesting what you say because for years now my wife and I have been kind of observing from a distance, not from a distance, we’re in the middle of it all but sometimes you kind of go in the helicopter and look down and look at the chaos and go, ‘look at all the chaos that’s going on around us,’ you know, without getting completely involved, of course. You can’t fully not be in the midst of it because you’re a human and you have to live your life and but it almost does seem like, you know, the pandemic we went through, all sorts of other things that have happened since, you’re kind of thinking, ‘where is this leading to?’ There’s something meaningful going on, but we can’t quite put our finger on it.

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So, yeah, we’ve become observers. So I look, I kind of look forward to observing more about what’s going to transpire over the coming months and years, for sure. Yeah, I really, oh, go ahead. No, no, go for it, sorry. I was just going to say, I just would invite you to continue that overview and start connecting the dots. It’s so obvious right now, I’d laugh every day. I know that sounds funny, but, and I’m not trying to minimize and I’m not a bypasser; like I get what’s going on. But I see those patterns connecting and I see, I see some real. So huge comedy in the clues that are being given to humanity. Right. In this wake up. Yeah. Very good point.

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So all of the journey that you’ve been on, you’ve obviously, you’re writing a book right now, but you’ve written a book previously too, is that correct? Actually, I’ve written two books. Two books, right. And your third one is in revision or in editing right now. It’s in editing and it’s actually three books. Because. It was 900 pages. So I couldn’t do it in one book. Oh, my word. That’s amazing. So, and then the work that you’re doing today, could you give, get us right up to date with what it is that you do for people? So I started my journey into Theta Healing back in 98. The year prior, my guides told me that I was going to meet someone. I was going to meet someone from my next step.

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And then I met this medical intuitive. Named Vianna Stiebel. She came to my area. I was the first person to continue in California with Theta Healing. It’s now called Theta Healing Technique. Vianna healed herself of terminal cancer or creator healed her. I should say of terminal cancer in less than 30 seconds. And so she went on to teach more techniques. And it’s become a worldwide movement where just about in every country, except Antarctica. So we, we work with a connection to the divine source of all that unconditional love and people call it God or Source or Creator, whatever you call it. And we have a meditation to help us remember, because we’re all connected to that energy. We are never separated. We are never separated.

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We have so many beliefs that tell us that it’s separate from us. So we work with beliefs. We work with healing techniques and connection. We can see inside the body. We call it remote sensing. We can remote view, but it’s, it’s sacredly done. We have quantum level techniques because everything is atoms and how we think about the formation of those atoms is through our belief systems. And so we can change that I’ve watched tumors disappear in one hour, literally. And with the doctor verification, how is that possible? Because I changed enough of my beliefs to witness for somebody else? Does everybody change that fast? No, because they haven’t beliefs too. So, we work through those so that we can see how it serves them. What, what is it doing for them to hold their paradigm?

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In a certain way. So I have developed my trauma techniques through this method in order to expedite the healing, in order to work with the inner child, in order to be able to also calm the body down after a session, because it often somaticizes, and to make sure that my clients walk out with calm and emotional stability. So all of that is really important to me. And from 25 years of working as a Theta Healer, I put together these patterns and these understandings and awareness to make it easier for those who are Theta Healing practitioners and to allow the general public to know what we’re doing. And, you know, to let them know about this beautiful love-based healing art. Wow, sounds incredible. And do you do this in person?

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You have to have the physical body with you or you do this remotely as well? Well, healings can be just sent generally. It doesn’t need to be in person at all. Okay. And we do that a lot. I mean, I’ve had like 50 people send me unconditional love and I feel it. It feels lovely. And remind me afterwards, Michael, I’d be, you know, grateful to let you experience that. And so, and then we’re talking about the remote, the remote. Yeah, we can. I do my sessions through Zoom. Right. I used to do them in person. Okay. So it can be done either, either way. I prefer because most of my clients have trauma, childhood abuse. And so I prefer to also see them though. I am clairaudient.

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I like to see so I can pace them, how they are moving through, you know, their faces, how they’re changing their breath, stuff like that. So I can make sure I don’t overwhelm them. Got it. Got it. Right, right, right. Got it. And you’ve been doing it for a long time. I mean, I didn’t hear about theta healing technique. Well, probably in the late noughties, probably. And I’ve never had it, never experienced it before. I’ve never met a practitioner before. So you’re my first practitioner that I’ve, that I’ve met. And so thank you very much. And thank you very much. Thank you for sharing about that. And is there anything else that you do for people? Well, you know, it’s interesting.

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I’m kind of moving away from one-to-ones because I also am a founding member of the Moving Beyond Trauma Project. So that’s a non-profit. And we, we gather together so that we can educate people. And as we raise our funding and stuff, our feeling is that we want to connect with other agencies and non-profits to create centers for those who have been abused and let this be free. You have no idea how, when there’s extreme trauma, how it affects the money issues because the place where it’s located, the hips and sexual, you know, chakra where, you know, abuse occurs also is where money issues land. So it affects our energy. And I want, I want those people, I struggled years ago to pay for therapies for myself. I don’t want people to go through that.

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No. Amazing. Well, that’s wonderful. So is there anything that I haven’t asked that you would have liked to have shared, Judy? Apart from, I’m going to ask you in a minute to share how people can get in touch with you, but anything general that you would have liked to have shared? Not really. Other than to say, it just, it just came up this week, which I was pretty excited about just as verification of things changing on the planet. In the United States, there was a whistleblower. Her name was Tara Rodas and she, through Project Veritas, which is a non-profit journalism organization, has that the U. S. Congress is considering having a conversation with the U. S. Congress on the U. S. Congress on the U.S. Congress.

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Congress hearings to make known about government-sponsored taxpayer funding child trafficking and what’s going on. I’m like, oh my God, what a time to be alive, you know, to see this happen. So another thing for me that I get excited about, but I just want to say that I feel that our future generations will look back at this time. And go, wow, wow, what an epic experience that occurred at that time. And so thank you for, you know, having me here and I get to talk about this. Well, I really appreciate you talking about it. And yeah, make sure that the message gets heard loud and clear. How can people get in touch with you, Judy? They can go to my website, which is The Flow of Healing.

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Com or the non-profits, which is probably my preference. And that is the movingbeyondtraumaproject. org. The movingbeyondtraumaproject. org. Great. Okay. So I’ll make sure those are in the show notes so people can get in touch with you. Find out more about the program. And I’ll see you next time. Yeah. More about your work. Get updates about your upcoming book. When do you think your new book might be launched? Oh, gosh, my prayer. My prayer is by April 1st. But okay. Because it’s in editing phases. And you know, if you’ve ever written a book or anything, oh, gosh, editing, you finally have to let the baby go. Yes. Yes. So that’s more. And remember, this is like three books that I’m editing. Yeah. Wow. Incredible. Well, I wish you massive success with your book and the editing.

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It will all be worth it. I’m absolutely confident. And thank you so much for highlighting the issues around this. Thank you for sharing your story about it all, for being so brave. And I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you a lot. Okay, Judy. Well, please keep in touch. Please let me know when the book’s out. Because I’ll revisit the show notes and I’ll add it, make sure to add it on for anybody who might be passing by. Great. Thank you. Thank you, Judy. Take care. Bye for now. Bye-bye. If you’ve enjoyed this podcast, please rate, subscribe and share at will. Always looking for more listeners and guests. So do get in touch, please. You can find me pretty easily by searching for Staying Alive UK. Thank you. Staying Alive UK. Share your story.

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英國保持活力。分享你的故事。你好,朱迪。你今天怎麼樣?我很棒。謝謝你邀請我參加。事實上,我很高興你能加入播客。已經等了很久了,對吧?因為你要搬家,所以不得不拖延一些事情。因此,我們在讓您來到這裡方面經歷了一次重大突破。所以我希望你的搬遷進展順利,並且你已經適應了它的外觀。我現在已經安頓下來了。偉大的。是的,太棒了。嗯,朱迪,我既頑皮又懶惰。我先問一個問題。我沒有其他排練過的問題。然後一個問題是,朱莉,感謝您參加播客。您願意分享您的故事以及您如何取得今天的成就嗎?

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我會的。我實際上很興奮,並且已經等待很長時間才能更公開地講述我的故事。所以我真的很感激你有這樣的格式,我可以更多地談論它。偉大的。是的。我的故事非常獨特,因為我倖存下來,也因此改變了我自己和我是誰。這是一個在個人以及更大的行星和宇宙層面上深入黑暗深處的故事。是的,這是關於多代多代的虐待。這是真的。這是一種創傷性影響,至今仍在發生,甚至在全世界範圍內。一些從我將要提到的這種我認為是極端創傷中倖存下來的人已經公開了完整的細節。我認為這是一個非常勇敢的舉動。

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但我選擇以完全不同的方式開始我的旅程。雖然過去 20 年來我一直在公開討論各個方面,但我反而專注於自己的治療以及幫助他人治癒因童年虐待而造成的創傷。是的。所以,我只想說,出於幾個原因,我將刪除故事的大部分內容。我知道強度。一次聽太多聲音如何影響我所說的自主神經系統,負責戰鬥、逃跑和凍結。我希望人們和我在一起。在過去的三年裡,我經歷了太多,或者說我們都經歷了太多的震驚和創傷。所以,我想讓每個人都變得更溫和。當然。謝謝。是的。所以。

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另一個原因是我已經寫了一本,或者我將會寫一本關於我的生活的虛構自傳。因此,我現在不想公開其中的某些方面,當我寫這本書時,我會以像徵性或隱喻的方式將其表達出來。明白了。是的。所以。所以。因此,我接下來要說的可能對某些人來說有點令人興奮,而對其他人來說則有些困難。好吧,有些人將能夠將其與歷史或當前正在發生的事情聯繫起來。是的。所以。我出生在20世紀50年代的冷戰時期,人們對那個時代進行反思。有點像是「交給海狸地區或空氣」。是的。

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而且,你知道,就像克利弗一家一樣,一切都很好,但對於數百萬其他孩子來說卻並非如此;這個國家害怕共產黨,許多人認為必須制定策略來對抗共產黨。所以,這就是歷史文本所說的,但那隻是表面層次的。是的。因此,與此同時,納粹分子已經透過「回形針計畫」被帶入美國。那是在第二次世界大戰期間和之後。因此,請考慮卡納維拉爾角和納粹維爾納·馮·布勞恩 (Werner Von Braun),他在 20 世紀 50 年代和 60 年代被帶到這裡從事火箭和太空工作。所以,比他多的人還有很多。於是,艾森豪威爾談到了軍事。

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他談到了軍事工業綜合體,他們將第二次世界大戰和朝鮮戰爭的技術用於這個國家選定的兒童作為受控和編程的實驗和奴隸。哇。是的。其實有很多書寫過這方面的內容。所以。您的觀眾可能會對此感到好奇。我在美國東海岸長大,基本上被認為是猶太中產階級社區。這就是掩護宗教。我的 DNA 是歐洲猶太人,但這不是我所認為的我的身份。我認為自己是一個擁有人類經驗的精神存在。是的。和。所以。因此,順便說一句,我沒有與我的親生家庭接觸過,表面上或最重要的故事是關於我的母親和她嚴重的心理健康問題,以及她對我的情感虐待程度。

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所以家裡就有了替罪羔羊。當然。我的母親。對不起,什麼?當然。我說,當然。哦,好吧。所以,我的母親被貼上了躁鬱症的標籤,現在被稱為躁鬱症,也被貼上了躁症自殺的標籤。她經常住院,我父親雇了一些婦女來照顧我和兄弟姊妹。作為一個三歲以下的孩子,我會去祖母的社區轉轉,因為我和她住在一起。那生命的傷痕,她知道,不是她會的嗎?嗯,為了賺錢不賺錢,她還找女人當我媽。這是已經患有依戀障礙的一個重要跡象。還有上帝。那麼,我的媽媽。即使她懷著我,她也多次試圖自殺。那麼,我的媽媽。

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事實上,我在托馬斯·暴政案中就已經提前發現了這一點,壓抑的記憶。我的家人。我如何康復,我的父親來找我。由一名州調查員,嗯,在一家非常著名的醫院找到了我母親的部分記錄,所以我喜歡當這種驗證到來時,你知道,它對我來說已經發生了很多年,我的意思是最奇怪的事情出現了,嗯,我母親不是躁鬱症患者,呃,她患有分離性身份障礙,也稱為多重人格,有點像《西比爾》書中的那樣,事實上她對我的虐待就像西比爾的母親對她所做的那樣,這變成了誰是西比爾,朱迪,誰是西比爾。所以西比爾是個女人;他們在 70 年代和莎莉·菲爾德一起拍了一部電影,還有一部關於它的電影,對吧?

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而且她個性很多,爸爸上班的時候,媽媽也會用不同的方式折磨她吧?所以我在七十年代初讀過這本書,當時它出版了,我只是它引起了我的共鳴,但我當時沒有記憶,對嗎?所以是的,嗯,謝謝你,是的,當然是的,我的記憶開始出現是在 87 年 9 月的諧波聚合之後。你知道,很多信息開始湧向我,我實際上向上帝祈禱,我說,『把一切都給我吧,你知道,無論發生什麼,我都很感激,因為它沒有出現方式。所以,我的父親,嗯,我也很感激,我能夠告訴你,我能夠告訴你,性虐待是從嬰兒時期開始的,而且是由不同的親戚實施的除了我的母親。

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我正在被訓練從事人口販賣等活動。所以我的一些親戚在性訓練和服務方面從我身上賺了很多錢,包括我的外祖父、我的父親和我的祖母。我的祖母沒有參與虐待行為。事實上,我的祖母試圖阻止她的丈夫,我的祖父對我進行性虐待,但他進行了報復,並對她的權利變得暴力,所以你知道,這就是模式,功能失調的家庭和虐待家庭。那麼你的祖母和祖父是你父母的父母呢?父親哇,好吧,就像我說的,我父親沒有參與,我祖母也沒有參與,不。我理解,但我的另一面是,是的,我不知道,我想看看你母親和她父母之間是否有聯繫,呃,但事實並非如此,這是家庭的另一面,你父親的一邊的家庭,你媽好吧,其實是雙方的家庭嗎?

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哦,是的,絕對是。因此,當我的祖父去世時,也就是我三歲的時候,就像那時一樣,虐待也隨著他而停止了。但我的另一個祖父已經在拐賣我了。是啊,他們是怎麼交流的呢?你知道嗎?哦,是的,是的,這就是我在故事中要講的地方,好吧。抱歉,我跳到前面了,一點也不,一點也不。我的意思是,你知道,家庭雙方都參與其中,所以故事變得越來越大,是的。所以當時,嗯,有點像在 80 年代末跳過了一小部分,我和家人做了一個披露。我從加利福尼亞州飛到加利福尼亞州,我在加利福尼亞州,我在加利福尼亞州,我在加利福尼亞州,並且

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我去了我的出生地,召集了幾位家人,其中一個是加害者,一個是加害者,我把我當時所知道的事情做了一個真相分享,雖然不多,但是足夠了。的一些人,我的父親在那裡,一個叔叔在那裡,一個姐妹在那裡,所以當時有大約40 個人為我祈禱,我的意思是披露,當時這在整個過程中都是早期的所以這是一件非常非常大的事情,所以嗯,在那次披露期間,我父親低下了頭,這是他的信號,嗯,因為他患有我認為的鴕鳥綜合症,這是他的應對機制,你知道,我大部分的時間童年。

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他無法應對,我理解;我對此表示寬恕和同情,你知道。透過我的健康狀況,但是嗯,我的呃另一個親戚在對抗或披露之後,我寧願稱之為嗯挺身而出,她也被祖父虐待了,他基本上把這件事作為一個家庭秘密保守了50 年。所以這在當時是一個確認,是的;我記得你知道發生了什麼,因為沒有人告訴我任何事情。你知道,這一切都是透過壓抑的記憶出現的,所以嗯,實際上我父親知道我被他父親虐待,因為他後來告訴我,他被他父親虐待,我被他父親虐待。

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他;他看到了並試圖阻止,將我從他父親身邊帶走,但隨後又把我轉回他母親身邊,和他父親住在一起,因為我母親在精神病院裡,所以你知道沒有給他一個選擇;他在工作,所以我想,嗯,你知道,大多數人都會想到兒童性交易,將他們帶到受虐待的地方以獲取金錢,而且遠不止於此;所以嗯,我不僅受到家人的虐待。成員包括具有猶太信仰的社區知名成員、醫生、百老匯和好萊塢明星以及政客。我被帶去參加可怕的邪教儀式活動,並被利用從事色情活動;嗯,所有這一切所涉及的因素對大多數人來說都是難以理解的虐待、酷刑和創傷程度。

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嗯,我還被用於有組織的國際交通圈,甚至更多。我有過一百多次瀕臨死亡的經歷,當我達到這個數字時我就不再數了。所以,你知道,這說明了很多關於靈魂出體的體驗和精神。是的,很多時候當我跨越耶穌時,他都會抱著我,然後他會親切地告訴我,提醒我我的使命是什麼,我必須回去。但我必須記住我來這裡是做什麼的。嗯,我一直很直覺,我被利用了我的能力,嗯,但我不記得任何這些,因為我也像我母親一樣生活在分離狀態中,是的,嗯,我實際上從分離性身份障礙中整合出來28 年前的今天,我們錄製的那天,所以今天是周年紀念日。


00:16:54

所以是的。我知道這太棒了,時機和嗯,整合是一個為期9 個月的過程,我認為克里斯蒂的三個月的住宿,這對我來說就像一個上帝誕生的過程,我從“我們”狀態變成了「我」狀態。嗯,你這是什麼意思?朱迪你能解釋清楚嗎?我生活在一個多重狀態,所以我有 28 個部分有意識地與這些孩子一起工作,嗯,我稱他們為我的同事。因此,當人們打電話時,你知道我們當時有答錄機,它會說“我會打個招呼,我的名字是朱迪,請給我和同事留言”,所以我的朋友們知道這意味著什麼。



00:17:50

是的,是的,我的意思是,你必須有幽默感,你知道。是的,你必須有幽默感,你知道。是的,是的,那麼這足以解釋了嗎?確實如此。那你是在談論多重人格嗎?是的,是的,這就是分離性認同障礙,你說28?哦,是的,哇!我的意思是,顯然我根本就不太了解這個話題。我理解「多重人格」這個詞,但我一直認為最多可能有一個、兩個或三個,對吧?但有這麼多,是的,當你說這讓我想起那部電影上映時,你知道,喬安妮·伍德沃德主演的《夏娃的三張臉》,你知道實際上夏娃有不止三種性格,但好萊塢沒有。


00:18:53

事實上,28並沒有那麼大;我曾與擁有數千個零件的人一起工作,他們被稱為多碎片,好嗎?所以人們不知道這一點,但是,是的,是的,不,那並沒有那麼大,但至少可以說,對我來說,管理起來有很多,好嗎?是的,我可以想像。而且,它是如何出現的,或者它是如何以如此複雜的方式出現在你的生活中的?是的,這是一個好問題。是的,我是摩羯座,所以我是摩羯座的兒子,所以我是一個組織者,而且我還有四個外部孩子,所以我會聽到我腦海中的聲音,但我認為每個人都有自己的聲音。向右走,好吧,他們可能會這樣做,但不像我那樣。你知道我經歷過尖叫和哭泣,你知道不要這樣做,我不知道那是什麼。


00:20:06

我只是你知道你忍受它,然後當我開始意識到隨著治療的進行,如果我不聽他們的,因為我開始在治療和其他方面與他們溝通,如果我不聽,有時我會所謂的身體接管。我會進入後台,這樣我的眉毛上方就會有一滴淚水,就像前面的多維轉變一樣。我,主持人朱迪會進入後台,角色會出來並開始說話,所以我會像我是一個三歲或六歲的孩子一樣說話,或者類似的東西,也許在某些電影,但這就是真實發生的事情。所以,我唯一一次經歷過這種情況實際上是在佛羅裡達州,因為我們曾經在南美洲的蘇利南住過一段時間,我旅行過我的叔叔和阿姨,他們的女兒住在佛羅裡達州的博卡拉頓,我們,我姐姐和我,為了慶祝我們的 15 歲生日,我們獨自從南美洲的蘇利南前往佛羅裡達。

00:21:27

我叔叔曾經做過催眠術,他催眠了我,所以我今年15 歲,他總是記得當我三歲的時候,我在阿姆斯特丹的花園裡走來走去,聞著花香,坐在一盞燈上。一切,顯然是我叔叔。我可以聽到自己在說話,但我不知道我的聲音完全變成了三歲孩子的聲音,所以這是我唯一一次經歷過這種情況,所以我現在知道你的意思了,所以那是一種內在的感覺兒童回歸,這就是我所說的。


00:22:25

我還獲得了催眠治療師認證,所以對對對,是的,所以你內心的孩子出現了,告訴你發生了什麼。是的,是的,沒錯,所以,你會有一個三歲的孩子,一個六歲的孩子,一個十二歲的孩子,一個十八歲的孩子,你會有精確的倍數,嗯實際上是我,我的部分看起來和我不一樣,就像我照鏡子,我看不到我,我會看到一個紅頭髮和藍眼睛的孩子,就像我沒有藍眼睛或紅頭髮,嗯,我會他們也有名字,所以這是分離性身份障礙,但也有 DDNOS,他們現在稱之為不同的東西,但它在身份上並不像你所說的那樣是一個六歲或五歲的孩子是的,我有不同的名字。


00:23:33

我知道他們的聲音,我知道誰會站出來,但有時我無法控制。所以,嗯,我的新書現在正在修訂中,我在那裡分享了一些故事,而且我幾年前出版了一本書,關於將身份與其他七個女性的故事相結合,所以你知道它更詳細地介紹了每個人發生的事情的過程。是的,所以你認為,呃,我知道我有點打斷了你的流程,但我必須問這個問題,以防我忘記,那就是:你認為我有嗎?這些角色,嗯,讓我們稱之為發生的情況是一種應對你必須處理的創傷的方式,這就是為什麼它出現或絕對存在的部分原因,它實際上是一個輝煌的應對機制,因為孩子只能選擇分裂精神病或死亡,所以我認為這是相當聰明的,


00:24:54

你知道,是的,絕對,因為你,你,你有效地將自己從身體和心理上與正在經歷創傷的那個身體分離,你說那不是我,我不是那個正在經歷那件事的人創傷,那是別人,沒錯,他們救了我的命,那些部分,那些方面救了我的命,直到他們的工作結束為止。需要更多的權利,這是一個自愛和自我接受的過程,當這種情況發生時,一個上帝的過程發生了,他們進入了我的身體,讓我只想說,這是周年紀念日,就像我說的,這對我來說太痛苦了,我花了幾個月的時間,我哭啊哭啊哭,我不知道該怎麼辦,我不知道如何作為一個人在這個世界上運作,所以就像你知道的那樣,就像試圖以一種完全不同的方式找到我的出路,


00:26:03

所以你認為失去這些個性或個人也是悲傷嗎,是的,我愛他,是的,絕對,我是他們的媽媽,你知道,我可以想像,是的,嗯,我想我,我知道它對我的其他孩子來說真的很難,現在真的很難,所以嗯,你知道會發生一些事情,當我轉換時,這會讓事情變得非常困難,就像,’媽媽在哪裡,但他們不知道發生了什麼事;’他們只知道媽媽不在那兒,是的,是的。所以,你知道我很實用——我做兩份工作,養育了四個孩子,還經歷了一次可怕的離婚,所以對我來說,當我回顧我所經歷的事情時,我有如此多的力量;這對我來說仍然很神奇,是的,是的。

00:27:07

好吧,那你什麼時候稱之為融合?不,諧波收斂?是的,諧波收斂發生在你身上。嗯,如果你不介意的話,你當時多大了?我問得好,諧波收斂是在1987 年,那是一個巨大的行星轉變,請記住,好吧,那就是當一切都為我而來的時候,好吧,我不記得了,因為我當時不在87 年,我不是,我可能我的覺醒直到2000 年2004 年才發生,所以在那之後很長一段時間,所以我不會意識到任何事情正在改變,嗯,我知道我在44 歲的時候發生了變化,那麼這是一個很好的數字,我知道我知道是的,就在那時,我的一切都發生了變化,是的,好吧,所以1987 年,和諧收斂發生在你身上,然後你花了多長時間才能完全融入今天的你,這是一個有趣的問題。


00:28:29

95年整合的前28名,對嗎?好吧,那麼。我喜歡;我說定義我的方式,我繼續擁有記憶,但我必須感受這些記憶,所以這對我來說是一次非常不同的經歷,這些都是壓抑的記憶,所以直到今天我仍然有壓抑的記憶;直到今天,我的身體仍然在軀體化,所以有時你知道,在情緒和身體上都很困難。是的,我必須多照顧自己,嗯,我確實這麼做了;我嗯是的,所以我想我想回到故事的另一部分是的,所以嗯,當我19歲的時候,我的母親嗯自殺了,所以她終於在經過多年的嘗試後,我花了多年的時間來治癒能夠悲傷並最終釋放我對她的仇恨。

00:29:38

這就是,所以在 90 年代末,我經歷了這個四個小時的治療過程。事實上,直到今天,我不確定那個人做了什麼,但我所知道的是,那天晚上,我在寫作,我在內心的覺醒中哭了幾個小時,並且我體驗到了對那個人的寬恕。以及我對她所有的深惡痛絕;它完全轉變為對我母親所發生的事情的深刻的愛的理解。就像,我明白了。就像,我知道發生在我身上的事情已經發生了。在她的右邊,出現了這種深深的同情心,嗯,她開始以精神形式來到我身邊,她會透過我對我們倆發生的事情的記憶告訴我更多,對吧。


00:30:44

所以它是如此深刻,現在甚至很難談論它,因為它對我的觸動如此之深,是的,我理解,是的。嗯,所以,這種極端的虐待實際上一直持續到我結婚後,那是我20 歲的時候,嗯,我乘坐一輛1953 年的嬉皮校車搬到了加利福尼亞州,帶著兩隻狗,兩隻貓,呃,家具,然後我在家生了四個孩子,因為我不想靠近醫生,但我不知道為什麼,是的。是的,所以我在撫養他們的方法上非常另類。我沒有使用對抗療法,也沒有看電視。你和嗯,我收集草藥,嗯,花園,我烤麵包,我罐頭食品,我你知道做飯和研究,我練習金心術,就像不用針的針灸,用你的手指。


00:32:00

我是一名牙齒保健員,這一切你都知道。你知道,我意識到,你知道,我總是超越自己的極限,因為我就是這樣接受訓練的,是的。所以嗯,所以我的治療之旅已經大約是我人生的一半了。嗯,我花了多年的時間進行治療,並與替代療法從業者一起工作。所以,如果我們快要結束了,請告訴我不,不,你很好,你很好;繼續吧,是的,無論怎樣都可以。好吧,嗯,所以,嗯,作為一名臨床治療師,我一直在做很多治療,我也做了很多,你知道,我也研究了這一點。嗯,我會繼續做我的內在旅程工作,嗯,你知道,與客戶合作;然後嗯,我決定變得更像創傷專家。


00:33:00

我真的很擅長把這些點連結起來,你知道現在世界上正在發生什麼嗎?事實上,我很高興將模式組合在一起就像我的第二天性一樣,事實證明,我通常是對的,因為你知道,我有點跟踪事物。對不起,這對我來說是一個問題,因為我無法很好地追蹤身份證,所以我學會如何做到這一點非常重要,是的。當你說「所以」時,「所以」要多解釋一下當你說「你跟蹤得不好」或「你喜歡跟蹤嗯,因為這是我常說的一句話」。我已經學會瞭如何做到這一點,因為我已經學會瞭如何做到這一點,因為我遇到過,而我們的聽眾可能也不知道。


00:33:47

嗯,這意味著我……嗯,有不同的跟踪模式,所以現在當我們談話時,我們正在互相積極傾聽,你知道來回反饋,好吧,這是真的,這是一種跟踪形式。另一個軌道是,嗯,在不同的來源中出現的內容,我看到連接模式,然後將它們放在一起,然後這就是我將我的記憶放在一起的方式,這樣我就可以將事情拼湊在一起,然後它們可以對實際發生的事情有一個更大的了解。我無法追蹤這一點,因為幾年前我會和你說話,突然我會說,『我說了什麼,這會讓我感到害怕,因為我無法理解談話的正確之處,正確的,正確的。


00:34:50

好吧,這是缺乏追蹤和缺乏溝通能力的創傷反應的一部分,嗯是的。所以當我回來的時候,我感到非常興奮,好吧。謝謝你,是的。這是有道理的,是的,當然。因為我看到的幾乎就像我腦海中浮現的畫面;如果你的思想和身體上有如此多的創傷,那麼你所說的話是可以理解的,你實際上只是在說你所知道的,因為這幾乎是你做的——你已經對自己進行了編程,你不要這樣做想要記住那一刻。這幾乎是一種直接把它擦掉的感覺,因為你所經歷的所有事件,你實際上都會經歷過,我是根據我自己的理解來解釋的:你會把它擦掉,就好像它沒有發生一樣,它實際上是發生過的 嗯,大腦在創傷反應中認為它就像是生物先天的


00:36:13

有能力做到這一點,感謝上帝,我們的大腦知道如何保護我們免受這種程度的創傷,所以是的,就像你說的那樣,我們需要一種應對機制,如果感覺有些事情太多了,我就會阻止它,是的,我會走上另一條軌道,是的,然後有一種叫做處於創傷狀態的過程,這使得其他人的溝通有點困難,呃,但這就是我在與某人交談時知道他們是否也有解離的應對機制,是的,一切都是肯定的,不會從你所經歷的可怕創傷中帶走任何東西,而且你對你所經歷的一切有我最深切的同情。


00:37:05

我很抱歉,身為這個星球上的人類,你必須承受這麼多痛苦。同時,現在你已經成功地進行了很多治療,而且治療還在繼續。我完全明白了。由於您的經驗,您是一個比其他人更好的同理心治療師,因為您可以識別人們的特徵。您可以看到他們正在發生什麼以及如何幫助他們。是這樣嗎?是的。絕對地。那種同情,那種關懷,那種同情。就像,我明白了。你知道,我想喚醒其他人來理解它,並理解其中的模式。因此,當他們看到連環殺手、殺手並做出可怕的事情時,他們就會明白它從何而來。它不是憑空而來的。


00:38:06

那個人一定是受到了創傷才會做出這樣的事。所有這些模式都將出現在我即將完成編輯的修訂書中。所以我想喚醒人們帶來他們的同情心。當然,你可以恨別人。但你猜怎麼著?當我們憎恨別人時,我們的能量。我們的能量與他們相連,我不希望我的、我的力量、我的能量與虐待我的人連結。我想要我的力量。這就是為什麼我相信寬恕。是的,我喜歡這句話。是的,同時,我認為你是百分之百正確的。你不想把你的精力交給施虐者或所有這些做過可怕事情的人。我也檢視過自己,了解那些曾經、也許仍是施虐者的人。


00:39:14

對這些人來說,進入寬恕的空間真的非常困難,因為你想要的只是他們受到懲罰並被關進監獄。並且永遠見不到曙光。最近在英國發生了一起案件,一名警察多年來虐待婦女卻沒有被抓到。在倫敦警察廳工作了四年。前幾天他被判處30年監禁。還有很多評論說,這還不夠長。你知道,他要到八十多歲才能出獄。人們說還不夠長。他應該死在監獄裡。我現在對這個評論表示同情。而且,你知道,無論是男人或女人,就虐待的種類而言,通常都是男人。


00:40:25

我自己就是一個男人。我,我經常對我的妻子說這句話,她也有過一些經歷,有時我因為男人對女人、孩子和其他男人所做的事情而感到尷尬,因為我是一個男人。是的,是的,一點都不好。你知道,謝謝你作為一個男人分享你對此的感受。你知道,我完全理解那種憤怒和憤怒。我不可能經歷過我所經歷的一切並意識到寬恕。除非我經歷了這些階段,還有憤怒、憤慨、悲傷和恐懼等等,你知道,所以我明白了,但我們能作為一個充滿仇恨的星球生存嗎?那是我們想要放置意識的地方嗎?


00:41:30

不,好吧。是的。這些人肯定需要與社會隔離。但還有其他方法可以解決這個問題。你必須記住那些做過這些事的人,他們從哪裡得到這些行為?是的。這就是為什麼我的書解釋了這一點。他們是小男孩。順便說一句,是五分之一的女性,而不是五分之一的女性。順便說一句,在虐待兒童的人中,五分之一是女性。我的母親是個虐待者。是的。她被虐待了嗎?你敢打賭她是。是的。好的。所以你可以開始看到這種模式。你明白我的意思嗎?完全。完全。受制約的頭腦要負很大的責任。這種調節發生在人和創傷身上。這些,你知道,個性以及她最終無法忍受自己的事實,嗯,解釋了很多。


00:42:38

確切地。她無法忍受自己。這就是為什麼她在懷我的時候就嘗試過,當那段記憶第一次出現時,我以為她想殺了我。我以為這是個人的。是的。當我透過創作者做到這一點時。當我看的時候。它的真理,它的最高真理。我意識到她這樣做是為了拯救我們兩個。她不想讓我經歷她所經歷的事情。是的。當我意識到其中的最高真理時,我哭了很多。所以人們對事物的理解程度不同,你知道,嗯,我,就像我說的,完全理解人們想要懲罰的想法。是的。


00:43:25

但我們能否繼續這樣下去,而不是,你知道,早在七十年代,他們就試圖對監獄裡的人進行不同類型的改革。而且,那件事被擱置了。我說,開始把這一點帶回來,開始對待那些囚犯,喚醒他們內心被虐待的孩子。是的。這就是我的想法。嗯,是的,百分之百,因為那些思考過程、那些感受和一切的能量永遠不會被治癒或轉化。如果有這麼多人帶著這些感受和能量在地球上行走,我們所得到的只是重複、重複、重複,直到我們開始互相療癒。是的。現在是時候了,麥可。謝謝你這麼說,因為就是這樣。


00:44:30

我們現在正處於行星轉變之中。是的。所以那些罪犯將會被繩之以法,其中有些人已經被繩之以法。我們將在世界舞台上聽到令我們震驚的事情。我已經知道了。但。好的。所以,但這有點像其他人類需要醒來,知道到底發生了什麼,因為我們一直處於一場精神戰爭中,所有這一切都將被推進,而且現在已經發生了,你知道,那些筆記型電腦上發生的事情。這就是發生在我身上的事情,但我沒有使用那些筆記型電腦。好的。不,只是說。所以。我認為我們正處於一個它已經在公眾視野中的時代。如果公眾醒悟了的話。


00:45:30

所以我有點興奮。我確實是。作為一個直覺者,我對我們實際進入的領域有著多年的願景,對此我感到非常興奮。我希望人們感到興奮。我真的這麼做。我想讓人們知道,即使看起來很混亂,因為當一個女人生孩子時,你知道,這不僅僅是。你知道,在推擠過程中真的很瘋狂,你知道,已經做過四個孩子了,所以你會得到餅乾傑克的驚喜,你知道。所以我覺得我們現在正在經歷一些嚴重的分娩陣痛,直到我們進入水瓶座時代,我認為三月將會非常令人大開眼界。


00:46:21

嗯,謝謝你,我一定會留意這一點,並與正在發生的一切保持聯繫,你說的很有趣,因為多年來我和我的妻子一直在遠處觀察,而不是從一個地方觀察。我們正處於這一切的中間,但有時你會坐上直升機,向下看,看看混亂的情況,然後說,「看看我們周圍發生的所有混亂,」你知道,但沒有完全了解當然,涉及到。你不可能完全不身處其中,因為你是一個人,你必須過你的生活,但它幾乎確實看起來像我們經歷過的大流行,以及已經發生的各種其他事情因為,你會想, “這會通往哪裡?”正在發生一些有意義的事情,但我們無法完全確定它的具體情況。

00:47:31

所以,是的,我們已經成為觀察員。所以我看,我肯定期待更多地觀察未來幾個月和幾年將發生的事情。是的,我真的,哦,繼續吧。不,不,去吧,對不起。我只是想說,我只是邀請您繼續進行概述並開始將各個點連接起來。現在太明顯了,我每天都會笑。我知道這聽起來很有趣,但是,我並不是想最小化,我也不是旁路者;就像我明白發生了什麼事一樣。但我看到這些模式相互聯繫,我看到,我看到一些真實的。為人類提供的線索是如此巨大的喜劇。正確的。在此醒來。是的。非常好的一點。

00:48:24

因此,您所經歷的所有旅程,顯然,您現在正在寫一本書,但您以前也寫過一本書,對嗎?事實上,我已經寫了兩本書。兩本書,對吧。你的第三個現在正在修改或編輯中。它正在編輯中,實際上是三本書。因為。有 900 頁。所以我無法在一本書中做到這一點。哦,我的話。太棒了。那麼,您今天所做的工作能否讓我們及時了解您為人們所做的事情?所以我早在 98 年就開始了 Theta 治療之旅。我打算在下一步遇見某個人。

00:49:14

然後我遇到了這個醫學直覺。名叫維安娜·史蒂貝爾。她來到我的地區。我是第一個在加州繼續接受 Theta Healing 的人。現在它被稱為 Theta 治療技術。維安娜治癒了自己的晚期癌症,或者造物主治癒了她。我應該在不到 30 秒的時間內說出癌症晚期。所以她繼續教授更多的技巧。它已成為一項世界性運動,幾乎遍及除南極洲以外的每個國家。所以我們,我們與所有無條件的愛的神聖源頭建立聯繫,人們稱之為上帝或源頭或創造者,無論你怎麼稱呼它。我們有冥想來幫助我們記住,因為我們都與這種能量相連。我們從未分離。我們從未分離。

00:50:12

我們有太多的信念告訴我們它與我們是分開的。所以我們帶著信念去工作。我們致力於治療技術和聯繫。我們可以看到身體內部。我們稱之為遙感。我們可以遠程查看,但它是神聖完成的。我們擁有量子層次的技術,因為一切都是原子,而我們如何思考這些原子的形成是透過我們的信仰體系。所以我們可以改變我看到腫瘤在一小時內消失的事實。而且經過醫生驗證,怎麼可能呢?因為我改變了足夠的信仰來為別人作見證?大家的改變都那麼快嗎?不,因為他們也沒有信仰。因此,我們會研究這些內容,以便了解它如何為他們服務。什麼,他們為保持自己的範式做了什麼?

00:51:11

以某種方式。因此,我透過這種方法開發了我的創傷技術,以便加快癒合速度,以便與內在小孩一起工作,以便能夠在治療後使身體平靜下來,因為它經常使身體變得軀體化,並確保我的客戶能夠平靜且情緒穩定地走出去。所以所有這些對我來說都非常重要。在擔任 Theta 治療師 25 年的經驗中,我將這些模式、這些理解和意識整合在一起,讓那些 Theta 治療從業者更容易,並讓大眾知道我們在做什麼。而且,你知道,讓他們了解這種美麗的基於愛的治療藝術。哇,聽起來不可思議。你親自這樣做嗎?

00:52:19

你必須帶著肉身還是遠端進行?嗯,一般情況下就可以發送治療。根本不需要親自來。好的。我們經常這樣做。我的意思是,大約有 50 個人給了我無條件的愛,我感受到了。感覺很可愛。事後提醒我,邁克爾,你知道,我會很感激讓你經歷這一點。所以,然後我們談論遙控器,遙控器。是的,我們可以。我透過 Zoom 進行會議。正確的。我過去常常親自做。好的。所以無論哪種方式都可以完成。我比較喜歡,因為我的大多數客戶都有創傷、童年虐待。所以我也更喜歡看到它們。我是順風耳。

00:53:20

我喜歡看到這樣我就可以控制他們的節奏,他們如何移動,你知道,他們的臉,他們如何改變呼吸,諸如此類。這樣我就可以確保我不會壓倒他們。知道了。知道了。對,對,對。知道了。而且你已經這樣做很久了。我的意思是,我沒有聽說過 theta 治療技術。嗯,大概是在上世紀九十年代末吧。而我以前從未擁有過,從未經歷過。我以前從未見過修煉者。所以你是我遇到的第一個同修。非常感謝。非常感謝。感謝您分享這一點。您還為人們做其他事情嗎?嗯,你知道,這很有趣。


00:54:13

我正在放棄一對一的治療,因為我也是「超越創傷計畫」的創始成員之一。所以這是一個非營利組織。而我們,我們聚集在一起,以便我們能夠教育人們。當我們籌集資金和物資時,我們的感覺是,我們希望與其他機構和非營利組織聯繫,為那些遭受虐待的人建立中心,並讓這些中心免費。你不知道,當發生極度創傷時,它如何影響金錢問題,因為它所在的地方,臀部和性,你知道,脈輪,你知道,虐待發生的地方也是金錢問題所在的地方。所以它會影響我們的能量。我想要,我想要那些人,幾年前我一直在努力為自己支付治療費用。我不希望人們經歷這些。


00:55:14

不,太棒了。嗯,那太好了。那麼,還有什麼是我沒有問過但你願意分享的嗎,茱蒂?除此之外,我稍後會請您分享人們如何與您聯繫,但是您有什麼想要分享的一般資訊嗎?並不真地。除此之外,它只是本週才出現,我對此感到非常興奮,就像驗證了地球上發生的事情一樣。在美國,有一個告密者。她的名字叫塔拉·羅達斯(Tara Rodas),她透過非營利新聞組織Project Veritas了解到,美國國會正在考慮就美國國會問題與美國國會進行對話。


00:56:06

國會舉行聽證會,以了解政府資助的納稅人資助兒童販運的情況以及正在發生的情況。我想,天啊,看到這一切發生,真是活著的時代。對我來說,另一件事讓我感到興奮,但我只想說,我覺得我們的子孫後代將會回顧這一刻。哇,哇,當時發生了多麼史詩般的經歷。所以,謝謝你們邀請我來到這裡,讓我能夠談論這個問題。嗯,我真的很感謝你談論這件事。是的,確保訊息被大聲而清晰地聽到。人們如何與你聯繫,朱迪?他們可以訪問我的網站,即治癒之流。


00:57:12

com 或非營利組織,這可能是我的偏好。這就是超越創傷計畫。組織。超越創傷項目。組織。偉大的。好的。所以我會確保這些都在演出筆記中,以便人們可以與您聯繫。了解有關該計劃的更多資訊。下次再見。是的。更多關於你的工作。獲取有關您即將出版的書籍的最新資訊。您認為您的新書什麼時候會推出?哦,天哪,我的祈禱。我的祈禱是在 4 月 1 日之前。但好吧。因為現在正處於編輯階段。你知道,如果你曾經寫過一本書或任何東西,哦,天哪,編輯,你最終必須讓孩子離開。是的。是的。就這樣吧。請記住,這就像我正在編輯的三本書。是的。哇。極好的。好吧,我祝福你的書和編輯取得巨大成功。


00:58:13

這一切都是值得的。我絕對有信心。非常感謝您強調了與此相關的問題。感謝您分享您的故事,感謝您如此勇敢。我真的很感激。謝謝。非常感謝。好吧,朱迪。好吧,請保持聯繫。當書出版時請告訴我。因為我會重新查看演出筆記並添加它,請確保為任何可能路過的人添加它。偉大的。謝謝。謝謝你,朱迪。小心。暫時再見。再見。如果您喜歡這個播客,請隨意評分、訂閱和分享。一直在尋找更多的聽眾和嘉賓。所以請保持聯繫。您可以透過搜尋 Staying Alive UK 輕鬆找到我。謝謝。英國保持活力。分享你的故事。