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Staying Alive UK. Share your story. Hello, Judy. How are you today? I’m great. Thanks for inviting me on. I’m really excited to have you on the podcast, actually. It’s been a long time in the coming, right? Because you were moving house and you had to delay things. So we’ve had a big break and in terms of getting you here. And so I hope your move went smoothly and you’re settled in by the looks of it. I am settled in now. Great. Yeah, fantastic. Well, Judy, I am very naughty and lazy at the same time. I ask one question to begin with. I have no other rehearsed questions. And then one question is, well, Julie, thanks for coming on the podcast. Would you like to share your story and how you got where you are today?

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I would. And I’m actually excited and been waiting a long time to be more public about my story. So I really appreciate that you you have this format that I can talk more about it. Great. Yeah. My story is very unique because of what I survived and have changed so much about myself and who I am because of it. It’s a story that goes to the depths of darkness on a personal and on a larger planetary and cosmic level. Yeah, it’s about multigenerational multigenerational abuse. And it’s true. It’s traumatic effects and that it’s still happening to this day, even worldwide. Some who have survived this kind of what I consider extreme trauma that I’ll be mentioning have gone public with full details. And I think it’s a really brave move.

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But I’ve chosen to do my journey really differently. Though I’ve discussed aspects publicly for the last 20 some years, but I’ve instead focused on my healing and helping others to heal from trauma due to childhood abuse. Yeah. So, just to say that I’m going to truncate a lot of the story for several reasons. I know the intensity of. How hearing too much at one time affects what I call the autonomic nervous system that fights, flights, and freezes. And I want people to stay present with me. I’ve lived through so much, or we all have lived through so much shock and trauma in the past three years. So, I want to just kind of make it more gentle for everyone. Sure. Thank you. Yeah. So.

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The other reason is that I’ve written a, or I will be writing a fictionalized autobiography of my life. And so there are aspects of this that I don’t want public now and that I’ll put it in symbolic or metaphorical ways when I write the book. Understood. Yeah. So. So. So what I’m about to say is going to probably be a little bit mind-blowing for some and difficult for others. Well, some are going to be able to relate to it historically, or what’s going on presently as well. Yeah. So. I was born during the Cold War in the 50s, and people reflect on that time. Kind of like the Leave It to Beaver area or air. Yeah.

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And, you know, like the Cleaver family, and everything was okay, but it wasn’t for millions of other children; the country was afraid of communists, and many felt that there had to be strategies to fight this. And so, this is what the history texts say, but that’s on a surface level. Yeah. So, meanwhile, Nazis were already being brought in to the United States through Project Paperclip. And that was during and after World War Two. And so consider Cape Canaveral and the Nazi Werner Von Braun, who was brought here to work in rocketry and space during that time and through the 50s and 60s. So there were a lot more than him. So, Eisenhower talked about the military.

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He talked about the military industrial complex, and they use their techniques from World War Two and the Korean War on selected children in this country as controlled and programmed experiments and slaves. Wow. Yeah. There’s a lot of books actually out written about this. So. Your audience will probably be curious about. I grew up on the east coast of the United States, in what was considered basically a Jewish middle class neighborhood. And that was the cover religion. My DNA is European Jewish, but that’s not my identity in who I consider I am. I consider myself a spiritual being having a human experience. Yes. And. And so. So the surface or the top story of my biological family, who just, by the way, I don’t have contact with was about my mother and her severe mental health issues and how much she would be emotionally abusive towards me.

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So there was kind of the scapegoats in the family. Sure. My mother. I’m sorry, what? Sure. I said, sure. Oh, OK. So, my mother was labeled as having manic depression, which is now called bipolar, and was also labeled as manic suicidal. She was hospitalized often, and my father hired women to take care of me and the siblings. And as a young child under three, I would go around my grandmother’s neighborhood because I lived with her. That life-scar, she knew, wasn’t that she would? Well, order to make money or not, she even asked women to be my mother. And it was a big sign of having already what’s considered attachment disorder. And God. So, my mother. She also attempted suicide many times even while she was pregnant with me. So, my mother.

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And I had actually discovered this ahead of time in the Thomas Tyranny case, repressed memory. My family. How I’m healed back to life and my dad came to me. By a state investigator, um, finding part of my mother’s records in a very famous hospital, so I love it when this validation you know comes and it has come for years to me, I mean the most bizarre things show up, um, and my mother wasn’t bipolar, uh, she had dissociative identity disorder, also known as multiple personalities, and kind of like in the book Sybil, and in fact her abuse towards me was just like what Sybil’s mother did to her, and this became who’s Sybil, Judy, who’s Sybil. So Sybil was a woman; they did a movie with Sally Field back in the 70s and there was a movie about it, right?

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And she had many personalities, and her mother would torture her in different ways when her father was at work, right? So I read this book back in the early 70s when it came out, and I just it resonated with me but I didn’t have my memories then, right? So yeah, um, thank you, yeah, sure so um, my memory started coming out which was after the Harmonic Convergence in September of ’87. You know, so much started flooding in information to me, and I actually put out to God, I said, ‘Just just give it all to me You know, whatever happened, I’m so grateful that it didn’t come out that way. So, my father, and um, well just to say also that I’m so grateful that I’m able to tell you that I’m able to tell you that the sexual abuse started um as an infant and that was by different relatives besides my mother.

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And I was being groomed for trafficking and more. So some of my relatives uh made big bucks off of me in sexual training and services, and that included my maternal grandfather, my father, and my paternal grandmother. My grandmother were not involved in the abuse. In fact, my grandmother attempted to stop her husband, my paternal grandfather, from Sexually abusing me, but he retaliated and became violent with her right so you know this was, you know, the patterns and dysfunctional homes and abusive homes. So your grandmother and grandfather are the parents of your mother father father? Father wow okay yeah so like I said my father wasn’t involved, my grandmother wasn’t involved, no. I understand but my other side was yeah I didn’t know, I was trying to see if there was a connection between your mother and her parents, uh, but it wasn’t, it was the other side of the family, your father’s side of the family, and your mother well actually both sides of the family was it?

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Oh yes, absolutely. So when my grandfather died, which is when I was three years old, like right around that time that abuse stopped with him. But my other grandfather was already trafficking me. Yeah, how did they communicate with each other? Do you know? Oh, yeah, yeah, and that’s well where I’ll get to in the story, okay. Sorry, I’m jumping ahead, not at all, not at all. I mean, you know, you had both sides of the family being involved, so the story gets larger and larger, yeah. So at the time, um, kind of like skipping a little piece in the late 80s, I did a disclosure with the family. I flew out from California to California and I was in California and I was in California, and I was in California, and

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I went to my birthplace and I gathered a few members of the family, one of them being the perpetrator, one of the perpetrators, and I did a truth sharing of what I knew at that time which wasn’t very much but it was enough to awaken some people in my family and my father was there and an uncle was there and a sister was there and so I had like 40 people praying for me at the time, I mean disclosure, at that time this was early on in the whole movement so it was a very very big deal and so um during that disclosure my father put his head down which was his signal um because he had what I considered An ostrich syndrome, and that was his coping mechanism for, you know, most of my childhood.

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He couldn’t deal with it and I understand; I have forgiveness and compassion for that, you know. Through my health, but so um, my uh another relative after the confrontation or the disclosure, I’d rather call it um came forward and she had been abused by the paternal grandfather also right and he had kept it basically a family secret for 50 years while she was in and out of psychiatric, you know, doctors and stuff like that. And so that was a confirmation at that time, yes; I’m remembering you know what happened because nobody told me anything. You know, all of it came up through the repressed memories, so um, and actually my father knew that I had been abused by his father because he told me afterwards that he was abused by his father and that I was abused by

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him; he saw it and tried to stop it, taking me away from his father in the act of it, but then turned me right back to his mother, living with his father because my mother was in mental hospitals, so you know there wasn’t a choice for him; he was working, so I was um, you know, most people think of sex trafficking of children, taking them to places to be abused for money, and it’s way more than that; so um, I was abused not only by family. Members but well-known members of the community with that Jewish faith, and doctors, Broadway, and Hollywood stars, and politicians. I was taken to horrific cult ritual activities, and I was used in pornography; um, there are elements involved in all of this that are unfathomable in levels of abuse and torture and trauma involved for most people to comprehend.

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Um, I was also used in organized international traffic rings, and even more. I’ve had over a hundred near-death experiences which I stopped counting when I reached that number; and so that says, you know, a great deal about out-of-body experiences and spiritual. Experiences that I had, yeah, many times when I would cross over Yahshua would be there and he would just hold me and I would just and then he would lovingly tell me remind me of what my mission was and that I would have to go back because I didn’t, I didn’t want to, you know. But I had to remember what I was here to do. Um, I’ve always been intuitive and I was used for my abilities in that um, but I didn’t remember any of that because I also lived in dissociative states like my mother yes, and um, I integrated from dissociative identity disorder actually 28 years ago today the day we’re recording, so it’s an anniversary.

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So yeah. I know it’s amazing, the timing and um that integration was a 9-month process, what I consider three months of accommodation for Christy, it’s like a a god birthing process for me and I went from a we state to a me state. And um, what do you mean with that? Judy could you explain that well? I lived in a multiple state so there were 28 parts of me that I consciously worked with right and those those children, um I called them my associates. So when people would call on the phone, you know we had answering machines in those days and it would say ‘I would say hi, my name is Judy, leave a message for me and the associates’ and so my friends knew what that meant.

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Right, yeah, I mean, you have to have humor, you know. Yeah, you have to have humor, you know. Yes, yes, so um did that explain it enough? It does. So are you talking about multiple personalities then? Yes, yes, that’s what dissociative identity disorder is and you say 28? Oh yeah, whoa! I mean, I don’t even know the topic that well at all, obviously. I understand the phrase ‘multiple personalities’ but I would have always thought there might be, you know, one, two or three maximum, right? But to have that many, yeah, when you said that it reminded me of when that movie came out, you know, The Three Faces of Eve with Joanne Woodward, and you know actually Eve had way more than three personalities, but Hollywood didn’t go there.

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And actually, 28 is not that big; I’ve worked with people who had thousands of parts and they’re called polyfragmented, okay? So people don’t know that, but yeah, yeah, no, that wasn’t that big, it was a lot to manage though, to say the least, for me, okay? Yeah, I can imagine. And, and how does that show up or how did that show up in your life with that complexity? Yeah, it’s a good question. Yeah, I’m a Capricorn, so a Capricorn son, so I am an organizer, and I also had four outer children, so I would hear voices in my head, but I thought everybody had voices in their. Head right, well they probably do but not like I did. You know I’ve had screaming and crying and all kinds of you know don’t do this and I, I didn’t know what it was.

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I just you know you live with it and then when I started realizing as the healing went on, if I didn’t listen to them because I started to communicate with them in therapy and stuff, if I didn’t listen, I sometimes had what was called body takeovers. And I would go in the background so there would be a tear right above my eyebrow, be like a multi-dimensional shift up front and another. And I Judy the host would go in the background and the part would come out and start talking, so I would be talking like I was a three-year-old or a six-year-old, or something like that, perhaps in some movies, but that’s really what happens. So, the only time I’ve experienced that was in Florida, actually, because we used to live in Suriname, South America, for a while, and I traveled my uncle and aunt and their daughters were living in Florida, Boca Raton, and we, my sister and I, for our 15th birthday, traveled on our own from Suriname, South America, to Florida.

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And my uncle used to do hypnosis, and he hypnotized me, so I’m 15 years old, and he always remembered when I was a three-year-old, I was going around the garden in Amsterdam smelling the flowers and on one of the flowers there was a bee and I got a fright, I ran into the house crying like this, and he remembered this and so he hypnotized me to go back to that point as a three-year-old and my sister who witnessed it, my uncle obviously. And I could hear myself a little bit talking but I didn’t know my voice completely changed to a three-year-old, so that’s the only time I experienced that, so I know what you mean now okay, so that was an inner child regression, that’s what I call it.

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I also was certified as a hypnotherapist, so right right yeah yeah, so your inner child showed up to tell you what happened. Yeah, yeah, that’s right, so, so you would have a three-year-old, a six-year-old, a 12-year-old, an 18-year-old, you would have multiples exactly and um actually for me um my parts look different than me like I would look in the mirror and I wouldn’t see me I would see a child with red hair and blue eyes and it’s like I don’t have blue eyes or red hair um and I would also they had names so that is dissociative identity disorder but there’s also DDNOS and they call it something different now but it’s not as separated in the identity like it might be a six-year-old or a five-year-old like you were talking about yeah I had different names.

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I knew their voices, I knew who would come out and sometimes I didn’t have any control over it. So, um, my newer book that it’s in revision now, I share some stories in there plus I had a book out years ago about the integration of the id with stories of seven other women, so you know it goes into more detail about the processes of what happened for each person. Yeah, so do you think, uh, and I know I’ve interrupted your flow a little bit, but I’ve got to ask this question in case I forget it, and that is: Do you think that having, I’m not saying that you created it, but these characters, um, let’s call it the condition that happened was a way of Coping with the trauma that you had to deal with is that part of why that comes up or exists absolutely, it’s actually a brilliant coping mechanism because the child only has the choices of splitting psychosis or death so I think that’s pretty clever,

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you know, yeah absolutely, because you, you, you’re effectively dissociating yourself from that body physically and psychologically who’s going through that trauma, you’re saying that’s not me, I’m I’m not that person that’s going through that trauma, that’s somebody else, that’s right, and they saved my life, those parts, those aspects saved my life until their jobs weren’t. needed anymore right and it was a process of self-love and self-acceptance, and when that happened, a god process occurred where they came in to my body, and that let me just say that this is the anniversary date like I said, and it was so traumatic for me, it took me months, I cried and cried and cried, I didn’t know how to, I didn’t know how to operate in the world as one person, so it was like you know, like trying to find my way around um in a whole nother way,

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so do you think it was grief as well for the loss of those personalities or those individuals, yeah I loved him, yeah absolutely, I was their mom, you know, I can imagine, yeah um, I think I, I know That it was really hard on my other children, now really hard, and so um, you know there were things that would happen that made it very when I switched and it was like, ‘Where’s mom but they didn’t know what happened; they just knew mom wasn’t there, yeah, yeah. So, and you know I was so functional-I worked two jobs and raised four children and went through a horrible divorce, so to me, I had so much strength when I look back at what I went through; it’s just amazing to me still, yeah, yeah.

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Okay, so when when that did you call it convergence? No, harmonic convergence? Yeah, harmonic convergence happened for you. Um, how old were you if you don’t mind? me asking well the harmonic convergence was in 1987 that was a huge planetary shift right remember that okay so that’s when everything came up for me okay well I don’t remember it because I wasn’t at that time in 87 I was not I might my awakening didn’t happen until 2000 2004 so it was a long way after that so I wouldn’t have been conscious that anything was changing um I know that I changed when I was like 44 then then that’s a good number I know I know yeah that’s when everything changed for me yeah okay so so 1987 is when the harmonic convergence happened for you and then how long did it take for you to fully integrate into who You are today, well that’s an interesting question.

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The top 28 integrated in ’95, right? Okay, then. I like; I said define my way and I continued to have memories, but I had to feel the memories so it was a very different experience for me and these are repressed memories so still to this day I have repressed memories; still to this day, my body somaticizes and so it’s emotionally and physically difficult sometimes you know. Yes, I have to take a lot of self-care for myself um and I do; I um yeah so I want to I want to go back to another piece of the story yeah yeah so um when I was 19 my mother um committed suicide, so she finally after all the Years of attempting and it took me years of healing to be able to grieve and finally release the hatred that I felt towards her.

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And this was um, so in the late 90s, I went through this four-hour healing process. Actually, to this day, I’m not sure what the person did, but all I know is, in that evening, I was writing, and I literally cried for hours in an awakening that occurred within me, and I experienced forgiveness to the depth of me. And all that heavy hatred that I felt towards her; it completely transformed into this deep love understanding of what happened for my mother. Like, I got it. Like, I got that what happened to me had happened. To her right, and there was this deep compassion that occurred and um, she started to come to me in spirit form and she would tell me more through my memories of what occurred to both of us, right.

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And so it was such a deep, it’s even hard to talk about it now because it touches me so deeply, yes, I understand, yeah. Um, so, so the extreme abuse actually went on until even after I was married, which was when I was 20 years old and um, I had moved to California in a 1953 hippie school bus with two dogs, two cats, and uh, the furniture, and then I home birthed four children um, because I didn’t want to be near doctors, but I didn’t know why, yeah. Yeah, and, so I was very alternative in my approach to raising them. I didn’t use you know allopathic medicine and no TV. You and um, I kind of gathered herbs and um, garden and I baked bread and I canned foods and I you know cooked and studied and I practiced Jin Shin Jitsu which is like acupuncture without the needles, using your fingers.

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And I was a dental hygienist and you know all of this. And you know, I realized, you know, I always went beyond my limits because I was trained that way, yes. So um, so my healing journey has been now about half my life. Um, I spent years in therapy and also working with alternative healing practitioners. So, if we’re coming near the end just let me know no, no, you’re good, you’re good; keep going, yeah, whatever that’s fine. Okay, um, and so, um, as a clinical therapist, I’ve been doing a lot of therapy and I’ve been doing a lot of, you know, I studied that too. Um, I would continue to do my inner journey work and um, you know, work with clients; then um, I decided to become more of like a trauma specialist.

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I’m really good at connecting the dots, you know what’s going on in the world now? I actually, I have fun connecting it’s like second nature to me to put patterns together and it turns out, I’m usually right because you know, I kind of track things. That excuse me, that was an issue for me when I had uh the ID I couldn’t track well, so it was really important that I learned how to do that yeah. When you say ‘so’, ‘so’ explain a little bit more about when you say ‘you didn’t track well’ or ‘you enjoy tracking um because that’s a phrase I have a lot of times. I’ve learned how to do that because I’ve learned how to do that because I’ve come across and our listeners probably don’t know it either okay.

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Well, it means that I… well there’s different modes of tracking so right now as we’re talking I’m we’re doing some active listening with each other you know feeding back and forth okay that’s True, that’s a form of tracking. Another track is um what comes up in different sources I see connecting patterns and I put them together and then that’s how I put my memories together so I could piece things together and then they came into a bigger picture of what was actually occurring. I couldn’t track that because I would be talking to you years ago and all of a sudden I would go, ‘What did I say and it would terrify me that I couldn’t understand where the conversation was right, right, right.

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Okay, so it was part of the trauma responses of the lack of tracking and the lack of ability to communicate, um yeah. So when I got that back It was so exciting to me, okay. Thank you for that, yeah. That makes sense, yeah, of course. Because I-I see it almost like the picture that’s coming in my head; it’s understandable if there is so much trauma in your mind and body then what you’re saying you’re literally just saying it for what you you know because it’s almost that you do you-you’ve already programmed yourself that you don’t want to remember that moment. It’s almost kind of rubbing it out straight away, because of all the events that you’ve experienced where you would literally be I’m paraphrasing for my own understanding: You will be rubbing it out as if it didn’t happen it was actually um the brain in trauma responses takes it’s like a biological innate

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ability to do that thank god our brains know how to protect us from that level of trauma so yeah the coping mechanisms that come from that like you said are going to need like if something feels too much i’m going to block it out yeah i’m going to go on another trajectory yeah and then there’s something called the process of being in a state of trauma and that makes it a little difficult uh for other people to communicate but that’s how i know when i’m talking to someone whether they also have dissociative coping mechanisms as well yes all being yes not taking away anything from the horrendous trauma that you’ve been through and And you have my deepest compassion for everything you’ve gone through.

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And I’m so sorry you as a human on this planet has had to suffer that much. And at the same time now, you have managed to do a lot of healing and the healing continues. I totally get it. Because of your experience, you are a better empathetic healer than you would be otherwise, because you can recognize the traits in people. You can see what’s happening for them and how to help them. Is that right? Yeah. Absolutely. That empathy, that care, that compassion. It’s like, I get it. You know, I want to awaken other people to get it, to understand the pattern. So when they see people that are serial killers, killers and do horrific things, they will understand where it came from. It doesn’t come from nowhere.

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That person had to be traumatized to act like that. And all of these patterns will be in my revised book that I’m almost finished editing. So I want to awaken people to bring their compassion. Sure, you can hate others. But guess what? When we hate others, our energy. Our energy connects to them, and I don’t want my, my power, my energy connected to someone who abused me. I want my power. And that’s why I believe in forgiveness. Yeah, I love that statement. It’s, and at the same time, I think you’re a hundred percent right there. You don’t want to give your energy to the abuser or to all these people that have done horrible things. And I have looked within myself of knowing of people who have been, maybe are still abusers.

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And it is really, really hard to go into that space of forgiveness for those individuals, because all you want for them is to be punished and to be put in jail. And never to see the light of day. So we had a case in the UK recently where a policeman abused women for years without getting caught. Four years in the London Metropolitan Police. And he was sentenced the other day for 30 years in prison. And there were lots of comments that said, it’s not long enough. You know, he won’t come out of jail until he’s like in his eighties. People said it’s not long enough. He should die in prison. And I now have sympathy with that comment. And, you know, whether it’s men or women, it usually is men in terms of the kind of abuse.

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Being a man myself. I, I say this often to my wife, who’s, who’s also had some experience, lived experience that sometimes I’ve, I embarrassed to be a man because of what men do towards women, children, other men. Yeah, it’s, it’s not nice at all. You know, thank you for sharing as a man, what, what your feelings are about it. You know, and I totally understand that outrage and the rage. I couldn’t have gone through what I’ve gone through and realized about the forgiveness. And unless I went through those stages, also of the rage and the outrage and the grief and the terror and all of that, you know, so I get it, but can we survive as, as a planet in hatred? Is that where we want to put our consciousness?

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No. Okay. Yes. Those people need to be separated from society for sure. But there are other ways to handle that. You have to remember those men who did those things, where’d they get those behaviors? Yeah. That’s why my book explains this. They were little boys. And by the way, one in five women, not one in five women. Out of those who abused children, one fifth are women, just to say. And my mother was an abuser. Yeah. Was she abused? You bet she was. Yeah. Okay. So you can start to see that patterning. Do you see what I mean? Totally. Totally. The conditioned mind is responsible for a huge amount. And that conditioning happens to people and the trauma. And those, you know, personalities and the fact that she event, in the end, couldn’t live with herself, um, explains a lot.

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Exactly. She couldn’t live with herself. And that’s why she tried when she was pregnant with me, when that memory first came up, I thought she was trying to kill me. I thought it was personal. Yeah. When I did it through creator. When I looked at. The truth of it, the highest truth of it. I realized that she did it to save both of us. She didn’t want me to go through what she had gone through. Yeah. And I cried so much in realizing the highest truth of that. So people have different levels of truth in which they understand things, you know, and, um, and I, like I said, totally understand people wanting to punish. Yeah.

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But can we continue that without, you know, back in the seventies, they were trying to, um, do different kinds of reform of people in prison. And, and that went by the wayside. I say, start to bring that back and start to deal with those prisoners with waking up their inner child who was abused. Yes. That’s my thought. Well, yeah, a hundred percent because the energy of those thought processes, those feelings and everything will never be healed or transmuted. If there are so many human beings walking around the planet with these feelings and the energy of this, and all we will get is just repetition, repetition, repetition until we start healing each other. Yeah. And this is the time, Michael. So thank you for saying that, because this is it.

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We are here now in the planetary shifting. Yeah. So those criminals will be brought to justice, and some of them have been brought to say okay. And we’re going to hear things on the world stage that are going to shock us. I already know this. But. Okay. So, but it’s kind of like the rest of humanity needs to wake up to know what’s really been going on because we’ve been in a spiritual war and all of this is going to be brought forward and it already is now, you know, things that happen on those laptops. That’s what happened to me, but I wasn’t on those laptops. Okay. No. Just to say. So. I think we’re in a time where it’s already in public view. If the public is awake to it.

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So I’m just kind of excited. I really am. I’m very excited as an intuitive and having visions for years of what we’re actually moving into. And I want people to get excited. I really do. I want people to know that even though it’s going to look chaotic, because when a woman gives birth, you know, it’s not just. Know it’s really crazy during the pushing and the shoving, you know, having done four children and so then you get the Cracker Jack surprise, you know. So I feel that we are going through some severe birthing pains right now until we shift into that Aquarian age and I think March is going to be very eye-opening just to say.

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Well, thank you for that and I will definitely be looking out for that and keeping in touch with everything that’s going on and it’s interesting what you say because for years now my wife and I have been kind of observing from a distance, not from a distance, we’re in the middle of it all but sometimes you kind of go in the helicopter and look down and look at the chaos and go, ‘look at all the chaos that’s going on around us,’ you know, without getting completely involved, of course. You can’t fully not be in the midst of it because you’re a human and you have to live your life and but it almost does seem like, you know, the pandemic we went through, all sorts of other things that have happened since, you’re kind of thinking, ‘where is this leading to?’ There’s something meaningful going on, but we can’t quite put our finger on it.

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So, yeah, we’ve become observers. So I look, I kind of look forward to observing more about what’s going to transpire over the coming months and years, for sure. Yeah, I really, oh, go ahead. No, no, go for it, sorry. I was just going to say, I just would invite you to continue that overview and start connecting the dots. It’s so obvious right now, I’d laugh every day. I know that sounds funny, but, and I’m not trying to minimize and I’m not a bypasser; like I get what’s going on. But I see those patterns connecting and I see, I see some real. So huge comedy in the clues that are being given to humanity. Right. In this wake up. Yeah. Very good point.

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So all of the journey that you’ve been on, you’ve obviously, you’re writing a book right now, but you’ve written a book previously too, is that correct? Actually, I’ve written two books. Two books, right. And your third one is in revision or in editing right now. It’s in editing and it’s actually three books. Because. It was 900 pages. So I couldn’t do it in one book. Oh, my word. That’s amazing. So, and then the work that you’re doing today, could you give, get us right up to date with what it is that you do for people? So I started my journey into Theta Healing back in 98. The year prior, my guides told me that I was going to meet someone. I was going to meet someone from my next step.

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And then I met this medical intuitive. Named Vianna Stiebel. She came to my area. I was the first person to continue in California with Theta Healing. It’s now called Theta Healing Technique. Vianna healed herself of terminal cancer or creator healed her. I should say of terminal cancer in less than 30 seconds. And so she went on to teach more techniques. And it’s become a worldwide movement where just about in every country, except Antarctica. So we, we work with a connection to the divine source of all that unconditional love and people call it God or Source or Creator, whatever you call it. And we have a meditation to help us remember, because we’re all connected to that energy. We are never separated. We are never separated.

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We have so many beliefs that tell us that it’s separate from us. So we work with beliefs. We work with healing techniques and connection. We can see inside the body. We call it remote sensing. We can remote view, but it’s, it’s sacredly done. We have quantum level techniques because everything is atoms and how we think about the formation of those atoms is through our belief systems. And so we can change that I’ve watched tumors disappear in one hour, literally. And with the doctor verification, how is that possible? Because I changed enough of my beliefs to witness for somebody else? Does everybody change that fast? No, because they haven’t beliefs too. So, we work through those so that we can see how it serves them. What, what is it doing for them to hold their paradigm?

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In a certain way. So I have developed my trauma techniques through this method in order to expedite the healing, in order to work with the inner child, in order to be able to also calm the body down after a session, because it often somaticizes, and to make sure that my clients walk out with calm and emotional stability. So all of that is really important to me. And from 25 years of working as a Theta Healer, I put together these patterns and these understandings and awareness to make it easier for those who are Theta Healing practitioners and to allow the general public to know what we’re doing. And, you know, to let them know about this beautiful love-based healing art. Wow, sounds incredible. And do you do this in person?

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You have to have the physical body with you or you do this remotely as well? Well, healings can be just sent generally. It doesn’t need to be in person at all. Okay. And we do that a lot. I mean, I’ve had like 50 people send me unconditional love and I feel it. It feels lovely. And remind me afterwards, Michael, I’d be, you know, grateful to let you experience that. And so, and then we’re talking about the remote, the remote. Yeah, we can. I do my sessions through Zoom. Right. I used to do them in person. Okay. So it can be done either, either way. I prefer because most of my clients have trauma, childhood abuse. And so I prefer to also see them though. I am clairaudient.

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I like to see so I can pace them, how they are moving through, you know, their faces, how they’re changing their breath, stuff like that. So I can make sure I don’t overwhelm them. Got it. Got it. Right, right, right. Got it. And you’ve been doing it for a long time. I mean, I didn’t hear about theta healing technique. Well, probably in the late noughties, probably. And I’ve never had it, never experienced it before. I’ve never met a practitioner before. So you’re my first practitioner that I’ve, that I’ve met. And so thank you very much. And thank you very much. Thank you for sharing about that. And is there anything else that you do for people? Well, you know, it’s interesting.

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I’m kind of moving away from one-to-ones because I also am a founding member of the Moving Beyond Trauma Project. So that’s a non-profit. And we, we gather together so that we can educate people. And as we raise our funding and stuff, our feeling is that we want to connect with other agencies and non-profits to create centers for those who have been abused and let this be free. You have no idea how, when there’s extreme trauma, how it affects the money issues because the place where it’s located, the hips and sexual, you know, chakra where, you know, abuse occurs also is where money issues land. So it affects our energy. And I want, I want those people, I struggled years ago to pay for therapies for myself. I don’t want people to go through that.

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No. Amazing. Well, that’s wonderful. So is there anything that I haven’t asked that you would have liked to have shared, Judy? Apart from, I’m going to ask you in a minute to share how people can get in touch with you, but anything general that you would have liked to have shared? Not really. Other than to say, it just, it just came up this week, which I was pretty excited about just as verification of things changing on the planet. In the United States, there was a whistleblower. Her name was Tara Rodas and she, through Project Veritas, which is a non-profit journalism organization, has that the U. S. Congress is considering having a conversation with the U. S. Congress on the U. S. Congress on the U.S. Congress.

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Congress hearings to make known about government-sponsored taxpayer funding child trafficking and what’s going on. I’m like, oh my God, what a time to be alive, you know, to see this happen. So another thing for me that I get excited about, but I just want to say that I feel that our future generations will look back at this time. And go, wow, wow, what an epic experience that occurred at that time. And so thank you for, you know, having me here and I get to talk about this. Well, I really appreciate you talking about it. And yeah, make sure that the message gets heard loud and clear. How can people get in touch with you, Judy? They can go to my website, which is The Flow of Healing.

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Com or the non-profits, which is probably my preference. And that is the movingbeyondtraumaproject. org. The movingbeyondtraumaproject. org. Great. Okay. So I’ll make sure those are in the show notes so people can get in touch with you. Find out more about the program. And I’ll see you next time. Yeah. More about your work. Get updates about your upcoming book. When do you think your new book might be launched? Oh, gosh, my prayer. My prayer is by April 1st. But okay. Because it’s in editing phases. And you know, if you’ve ever written a book or anything, oh, gosh, editing, you finally have to let the baby go. Yes. Yes. So that’s more. And remember, this is like three books that I’m editing. Yeah. Wow. Incredible. Well, I wish you massive success with your book and the editing.

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It will all be worth it. I’m absolutely confident. And thank you so much for highlighting the issues around this. Thank you for sharing your story about it all, for being so brave. And I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you a lot. Okay, Judy. Well, please keep in touch. Please let me know when the book’s out. Because I’ll revisit the show notes and I’ll add it, make sure to add it on for anybody who might be passing by. Great. Thank you. Thank you, Judy. Take care. Bye for now. Bye-bye. If you’ve enjoyed this podcast, please rate, subscribe and share at will. Always looking for more listeners and guests. So do get in touch, please. You can find me pretty easily by searching for Staying Alive UK. Thank you. Staying Alive UK. Share your story.